Evil Dad Realizes Cops Discovered His Sick Secret

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SPEAKER_02 0:04

Please boardman. Hey, are you Mr. Wiley? Hey, I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_00 0:09

This is the moment officers arrive at the home of Andrew Wiley after he reported his 12-year-old daughter, Lori Page, missing.

SPEAKER_05 0:17

So do you remember when she was last wearing? I was left for work yesterday. I don't move. I got off work. She's not here.

SPEAKER_00 0:24

Just hours earlier, Lori had suddenly disappeared, and police were called to investigate what was initially believed to be a possible runaway situation.

SPEAKER_19 0:32

No, what happened? Oh my god, it's like darn it's he's literally.

SPEAKER_25 0:39

Lori is really good at spinning lives. I've never seen anything like it before. How weird it'd be out. It's like this kid really, really wants to talk to adults.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

However, officers quickly realize there are no clear signs of where she went, no confirmed sightings, and nothing that actually explains how she left. And over the next two years, that story would slowly begin to fall apart, even though the person they were looking for had been right in front of them the entire time.

SPEAKER_09 1:06

Do you know where Lori is now?

SPEAKER_06 1:08

No, I do not. Okay. No, I do not. Was it a mistake? Was it an accident? Keep it up, man. This is your life, not mine. I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

Families go about their routines, unaware that something deeply disturbing has already taken place inside one of the units. Inside that home lives 12-year-old Lori Page with her father, Andrew Wiley. To neighbors, nothing appears out of the ordinary. There are no signs of struggle, no calls for help, no immediate reason to suspect that anything is wrong. But just days later, in early June 2023, everything changed. And a call is placed to the police where Andrew Wiley reports his daughter Lori missing.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Hi. Um, my daughter is missing. I can't find her anywhere. Okay, sir, calm down. I'm here to help. What's your name? Andrew, Andrew Wiley. All right, Andrew. What's your daughter's name? Lori, Lori Wiley. How old is Lori? She is 12. She just turned 12.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

Within minutes, an officer is dispatched to the home. At first, it seems like a situation they've handled countless times before. A child who may have left during the night. But as the officer pulls up to the apartment, what begins as a routine missing person's call is about to take a very different turn?

SPEAKER_02 2:49

Please barman. Hey, are you Mr. Wiley? Hey, I'm so sorry. Okay. So do you remember when she was last morning?

SPEAKER_16 3:02

I got to work yesterday. So like I work at night. So you work at night?

SPEAKER_02 3:08

So who was she hanging out with whenever she ran off?

SPEAKER_16 3:11

I don't know. I got off work.

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Who was supposed to drop a rock here? So you went to work last night. And she was here? Yeah. Okay. And then when you came home, she was gone? Okay. Does she suffer from any like disabilities or anything like that?

SPEAKER_16 3:32

I don't know. I'm just blazing the child right now.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

I hear you. Um, do you know of anywhere she might go?

SPEAKER_16 3:38

I know you said you don't know about her friends, but first time when we got her, she went to an abandoned apartment. Yeah, I was there for that one. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 3:49

And then are you okay just for policy-wise, if I look in the house, make sure she's not hiding anywhere? Okay. I know. It's it's really weird.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

That same day, officers began going door to door, trying to determine if any neighbors saw or heard anything unusual. At first, nothing about the situation seems especially alarming. For those involved, this kind of behavior isn't entirely new. Lori had previously been reported missing before, only to return within 24 hours, causing similar concern. Because of that, the case initially appears routine, another possible runaway, another situation that may resolve itself quickly. But what officers don't yet realize is that they're already at the center of something far more sinister. With that, the search for Lori begins, starting with officers asking neighbors if they had seen or heard anything.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Please barbe it. My name is Office. Hey, um, one of your neighbor's daughters actually ran away. I see that you have a camera.

SPEAKER_07 4:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:59

Do you know if your camera reaches like pretty far out into the neighborhood? Or is it like kind of stops right here?

SPEAKER_07 5:06

I can see near the there.

SPEAKER_02 5:08

Um, is there a way that you can look at the camera footage? Because it's uh this gentleman here and see if uh and see if like a 12-year-old girl left. It'd be anywhere from like 11 p.m. to like 10 a.m. I know it's a really long time, but that'd be awesome. Like a little girl like five foot tall.

SPEAKER_07 5:35

Yeah, I know I've seen her. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

Like this morning, walking around or anything?

SPEAKER_07 5:44

No, I haven't been outside or seen anybody today.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

You said it would have been around 11 last night? 11 p.m. to 10 a.m. It's a really long range, I know, but you have a really good angle.

SPEAKER_07 6:00

Yeah, I mean that's that's 8 o'clock yesterday. Okay. So they did not catch her leaving.

SPEAKER_02 6:08

Thanks for thanks for trying, I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

As the hours turn into days, officers continue going from neighbor to neighbor, speaking with anyone who might have seen or heard something, but nothing comes up. No sightings, no leads, no sign of Lori. With each passing day, concern begins to grow. What one seemed routine is starting to feel different. Investigators begin widening their search, reaching out to people across the local area, hoping someone, somewhere, knows something. And eventually, they come across one person who will shift the direction of the entire investigation, forcing officers to start looking at this case from a completely different angle.

SPEAKER_11 6:58

You ever seen this guy around here?

SPEAKER_19 7:00

No. Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_11 7:02

No, we're just looking for a missing girl, but you ever seen her around?

SPEAKER_19 7:05

No, what happened? I'm working on it. Oh, I can't I can't do this. No, what happened? It's it's been so weird around here. Something happens in my car. Oh. Something happens in my car. It's so weird around here. I swear to God. Is this a person that lives over here?

SPEAKER_11 7:22

It's just a girlfriend around here that's missing. Have you ever seen her around here?

SPEAKER_19 7:27

No. Oh my god. It's a child predator that saves in the neighborhood. Y'all seen y'all know? What do you know about them? Oh, I just look it up because I moved over here. I have kids. I have kids. Yeah, I have kids. Oh my god. It drives me nuts.

SPEAKER_09 7:42

Oh my god. How many, how many there are living nearby and uh next to your?

SPEAKER_19 7:46

Oh my god, it's the one on this one on the other side over. Yeah. I'm working, guys. I'm sorry. I didn't get a word.

SPEAKER_11 7:52

Alright, we're just saying if you had the other thing.

SPEAKER_19 7:55

Okay. Thank you.

SPEAKER_11 7:56

Yeah, you could keep okay. Have a great one.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

With officers now receiving information that there were registered sex offenders living in the local area, their attention begins to shift. If Lori had encountered anyone, these individuals would be among the first places to check. At this point, investigators aren't necessarily expecting to find anything significant. But with leads beginning to run thin, and nearly two days having passed since Lori was last seen, they can't afford to overlook any possibility. So, following up on that information, deputies begin locating the registered offenders nearby and expanding their search beyond the immediate residence. And with that, officers begin canvassing the surrounding properties.

SPEAKER_14 8:36

Hey, are you Mr. Glasgow? I am. Um, so I'm Detective Raballi, the Detective Taylor of the Tallahassee Police Department. Um so we're actually working a missing person case. Okay. Um, I don't know if you can kind of help us out. So we're trying to canvas the area to try to find her. Um I have a few questions if you don't mind me asking. Sure. Okay. You have a minute?

SPEAKER_27 8:52

I I do.

SPEAKER_14 8:53

Okay, cool. Um, how long have you lived at this house?

SPEAKER_27 8:56

Uh I think August 2022.

SPEAKER_14 8:59

August? Okay.

SPEAKER_27 9:03

I'm and I'm on probation, just so you know. I don't know if you're aware of that. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 9:07

Okay. Thank you for telling us.

SPEAKER_27 9:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 9:10

Would you rather ask come inside?

SPEAKER_27 9:12

It's up to you.

SPEAKER_14 9:13

If you're okay with that, yeah. I mean, I don't know if you're we talked to a few other neighbors. My eyes are trying to adjust.

SPEAKER_27 9:22

So a missing person in the neighborhood.

SPEAKER_14 9:25

So she I'll show you her flyer. So she was in this area, not specifically this neighborhood, but she's in this area. So we're knocking on several doors, we talk with multiple neighbors. Um, you said nobody else lives at home with you. Um, do you have any um step kids? Are you dating anybody where any children would be coming here?

SPEAKER_27 9:43

No, I'm I have I do have children.

SPEAKER_14 9:45

Nieces, nephews.

SPEAKER_27 9:46

No, nobody, nobody comes to my house.

SPEAKER_14 9:49

You have children?

SPEAKER_27 9:50

I do have children.

SPEAKER_14 9:50

How old are your kids?

SPEAKER_27 9:52

Um seven and twelve.

SPEAKER_14 9:53

Seven and twelve?

unknown 9:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 9:56

Girl, boy.

SPEAKER_27 9:57

Oh, seven-year-old boy, twelve-year-old girl.

SPEAKER_14 10:00

Do you have like a shed or anything on the back?

SPEAKER_27 10:02

Uh there's a well, yeah, there is, actually. Tell me to do wanna go back or something.

SPEAKER_14 10:06

Yeah, when he comes down. If you don't mind, like I said, I mean, you do not have to let us do this at all. I I just want you to understand that.

SPEAKER_27 10:14

No, I just I yeah. You know, I don't want to be any kind of hindrance.

SPEAKER_14 10:42

Yeah, thank you so much for the last time.

SPEAKER_27 11:20

I don't know. I can close that out. So actually, there is a like uh and then this or just back in the house.

unknown 11:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 12:14

Is it savable or not?

SPEAKER_00 12:17

As officers continue checking each location, nothing is uncovered. Those they speak to, including the individuals they were most concerned about, come back clean. For them, it's a relief. But for investigators, it means something else entirely. They're back to where they started with no leads. Now, with two days having already passed since Lori was last seen, the urgency begins to grow. Officers regroup, knowing they need to reassess everything and figure out where Lori could have gone. There are at least two prior cases. In one, she had been found at a set of abandoned apartments. In another, she had stayed with a family friend. Each incident begins to paint a picture, one that might explain her behavior and possibly where she could be now. But before investigators can follow that path, they need to understand the people around Lori. At the time, Lori had been living with her father, Andrew Wiley, while also maintaining contact with her mother, who lived separately. The two were no longer together and were living in completely different places. She had previously been reported missing while under both parents' care, incidents that ultimately ended with her being found safe. Because of that, investigators still believe there's a strong possibility this is another runaway situation, that Lori may be with someone somewhere and will turn up again. But what they don't yet realize is that it would become one of the most elaborate and twisted homicide cover-ups they've ever handled. And with that, officers revisit a familiar lead the woman Lori had been found with before.

SPEAKER_10 13:58

Hanging in there. Good. Um, so I am just trying to double check a lot of locations because you know she has been missing for a couple weeks now. Um so one of the locations was your house because I know she stayed here before. Um sorry, is she here? No, she's not. Has she been here? No.

SPEAKER_15 14:24

I mean she's been here, but before right, not in the past, like too. And just like I told the last couple of officers, last three officers in the matter. I know I believe that she knows that if she shows up here, I believe in accountability. I've already told the last three officers if she shows up here, I'm gonna bring her guys her to you guys, right? And then you guys can take her back to her dad. Because I know that there is some type of process that needs to happen because of the case.

SPEAKER_20 14:51

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_15 14:52

And I was under the impression that she had been found. Because when she came down here, um when she brought over here, they had put her on two medications.

SPEAKER_10 15:04

Okay. What kind of medications?

SPEAKER_15 15:05

For anxiety. Okay. And I don't remember what the other one was for.

SPEAKER_10 15:09

But no life-threatening illnesses, it was more like insulin or or medications or something.

SPEAKER_15 15:17

And Lori is really good at spinning live. Like I've never seen anything like it before. Um, I told the story all the time to my family when she was two years old, when kids are supposed to have an attention span of a nap.

SPEAKER_20 15:32

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_15 15:32

She would try to gaslight. Because Lori has the ability to hold on to vengeance. I guess that's the best way to put it. She has a tendency to hold on to that kind of stuff, but she also still has the mind of a child.

SPEAKER_20 15:45

Right.

SPEAKER_15 15:45

Well, she went to bake care, she played all day long, you know, had a good time, and then at the end of the day, when it was time for her to be picked up, she remembered, oh gosh, I'm gonna have to be in the room by myself. And she's throwing this line of my dad, which caused him to be arrested. Ah. And because she can hold on to a thing for a while, and it was bringing her greater and greater attention, uh-huh, it kind of taught her that this is all I need to do to get the attention that I need.

SPEAKER_00 16:15

While officers still have no success in locating Lori, they do begin to gain a clearer understanding of her behavior. Speaking with the friend's mother, investigators learn a few important details. Lori had been on medication for anxiety, and according to those who knew her, she had a tendency to tell stories that weren't always accurate. She was also described as someone who often sought attention. Taken together, this begins to paint a picture for investigators. At this stage, it reinforces their belief that Lori may have left on her own, possibly to prove a point or to get a reaction. But as time continues to pass, that explanation starts to feel less and less likely. Two months have now passed. What once seemed like a possible attempt to seek attention is no longer being treated that way. As the weeks go by, officers are still left with no leads, no sightings, no evidence, and no clear understanding of what happened to Lori. With the investigation beginning to stall, they decide to widen their approach. Investigators start speaking to anyone who knew Lori, hoping someone might hold a missing piece of the puzzle. This leads them to her school, where they begin questioning teachers and staff, searching for any detail that could point them in the right direction. But even then, many still believe Lori could be with someone, somewhere, and that she may still turn up. Sorry to interrupt the story, but if you're into true crime and want access to raw, uncensored footage, check out our Patreon. Link in the description.

SPEAKER_10 17:53

Okay, so um I'm the lead of bus here on the Lori Page um case. So I was looking at her Reddit username and went ahead and searched Lori Page, and I saw a post that you made on um a subreddit.

SPEAKER_13 18:11

Oh yeah, Kali Russell. I was like, everyone's talking about Kali Russell, but no one's looking for Lori Page. Here she is. Right.

SPEAKER_10 18:17

I saw your post and one of the one of your sub-comments, you mentioned that she was you heard a rumor that she was being groomed by a 20-year-old man.

SPEAKER_13 18:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 18:26

I have never heard this rumor. No one saw this to my attention. So where did you hear it? What is it? What's going on?

SPEAKER_13 18:36

I can't remember. No, I think it might have been Miss Summers. Who if you've been reading online, you've probably seen Margaret Summers.

SPEAKER_10 18:42

I've talked to her multiple times. That's why I'm sure.

SPEAKER_13 18:44

She didn't tell you that no.

SPEAKER_10 18:46

Did she say who the 20-year-old man was? Where she was being screened.

SPEAKER_09 18:51

Where did that information come from? Is kind of what we're curious about.

SPEAKER_13 18:56

This is a while ago, so I have to think. She um I thought she said it or that like you that she said Lori's mom or someone was concerned that she was being groomed by an older man. I think if a student told me, I would have known that.

SPEAKER_00 19:17

When officers confront her, she appears unsure of what to say, unable to give any clear answers or point investigators in a specific direction. With little to go on, detectives decide to broaden their approach even further, choosing to speak with anyone who might have information on the rumor.

SPEAKER_13 19:34

No, it's municipal scripting. So I posted on Reddit and I was like, okay, so this is real fake and why are we still talking about her? How about this one? He has a real missing girl. I post her. Yeah, about Lauren. And then in one of the comments, I told someone that I heard rumors that she was with like a 20-year-old man that was possibly grooming her. So the police want to know where I heard it. I don't remember. I thought I heard it from you.

SPEAKER_23 20:02

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_13 20:03

I never it might have been one of the kids, I just don't remember who. Don't send it.

SPEAKER_23 20:07

I do remember that there were some kids. Are you a stranger? Yes, man. I shouldn't be. Yeah. Um, I think some of the kids were saying even before she left that she was doing things she shouldn't be doing. But she could have Stephen Woods. He's with her behavior specialist. He's the one who told me. And he's he said, I remember him telling me he heard that Lori uh was was running around in short spandex and a tank top and she knew what she was doing.

SPEAKER_25 20:40

What?

SPEAKER_23 20:41

So I was like, yeah. That might have been where I heard it.

SPEAKER_25 20:45

No. So I interact with this kid every day.

SPEAKER_23 20:48

That would be weird. No, absolutely. But he said no, but he he was pretty assistant if there was a side of Lori that we didn't know.

SPEAKER_25 21:00

I was like, this kid really, really wants to talk to adults. Like she mostly wanted to talk to me. I saw connection. When they interviewed her, she didn't really want to talk to the kids now. Like she kind of was friends with the kids, but she really wanted to talk to adults most of the time.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

While it initially seems like the information from teachers is unreliable, more speculation than fact, none of it leads investigators any closer to Lori. The case appears to be going nowhere. But just a few days later, everything changes. A new witness comes forward, claiming they had seen Lori weeks earlier, describing her getting out of one car and into another. For the first time in days, investigators have something tangible to work with. And this new detail begins to shift the direction of the investigation entirely.

SPEAKER_24 21:51

So, Jason, basically all I all I got was a call for service. She says that you were checking in and that you basically saw the flyer.

SPEAKER_12 22:04

Um, some of them skate park. Yeah, um, I see two comers pull up. The first car was a white sedan, and then it had like like a brownish like paint jump, but it was like two over like time. Like it was like faded, it was a light sedan, 13 model. I mean I'm in light comers. I know commercial. And then um it parks there facing towards the skateboard. I didn't really see anybody since the windows were tinted, and then another tinted vehicle comes by it was a red S on the SUV 2016 model with the um straight lights going up. Like, you know, the ones that normally have around here, the green ones, but it was a red one, and then pose them up. I see her get out of the white car from the back seat, go back, get her stuff, and then go into the SUV, and then the SUV just drops them off.

SPEAKER_24 23:02

As far as her stuff in like a bag or something? Like a duffel bag. Like a duffel bag? Yeah. Where do you when you what did she say she wouldn't get on the stuff? Where did she get her stuff from? The back of the white vehicle. Like in the back seat or in the trunk? The trunk. So she gets out of the back seat. Remember what side she was on the trunk or side passenger side? Passenger side. So she gets out of the passenger side, and she goes around, and I guess the trunk had been activated so she can open it. And she opens it, grabs her dumffle bag, and then she just goes over and gets into the red Honda.

SPEAKER_12 23:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_24 23:30

And then she what does she get? In the front seat or the back seat or passenger. Front seat passenger? Yeah. Okay, and gets in there with her stuff, and then the the the red thing or the red SUV just drives away. You have another other contact, like email address or anything?

SPEAKER_12 23:45

Um, yeah. Okay. Uh sexy furry IR sexy furry irl3.com.

SPEAKER_24 23:51

Sexy furry? How's the sexy furry spell?

SPEAKER_12 23:54

It's been in my email since middle school, so I haven't really changed it.

SPEAKER_24 23:57

You're fine, brother. I trust me, I got emails that I've kept forever in a day, too. So I'm just trying to make sure I got it spelled correctly, that's all.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Yet with this new information, officers follow up on the lead, checking the local skate park and surrounding areas for any signs of vehicles or activity that match the witness statement. But unfortunately, nothing is found. The tip is ultimately proven to be false. And once again, investigators are left with no real progress. With the case still going nowhere, officers return to the one person closest to Lori, her father. They re-engage with him, hoping to gather more information, clarify details, and understand what their next steps should be. But this time, the conversation doesn't go the way they expect because Andrew has them exactly where he wants them.

SPEAKER_09 24:45

Have you talked to your brother in the last week or so? Yeah. So you know I went I I went to his house the other day and gave him some flyers to put on the on the trucks and stuff, um, and told his guys to look out.

SPEAKER_11 24:58

So I finally knocked everywhere, does it still look? So that's what um special agents work and I are gonna go around hanging up um anywhere and everywhere we can in Tallahassee. Gas stations, um, housing projects, anything, schools, everywhere we'll have that. The more places we can have her face seen, the better chances we have.

SPEAKER_09 25:16

Miranda told uh she weaned Lori off of those medications before she even brought her down here. So kind of that. Um something related to uh well it it's used for two things blood pressure and anxiety.

SPEAKER_11 25:33

So um leucain. I can't promise that I'm spelling that word right, but we have already done um records to get those records.

SPEAKER_16 25:43

Yeah, I mean we needed to go on. That's our legal process to get the records. And just trust me, like we're a team, we gotta work together. Obviously, she she had to be left home alone sometimes because I had to go to work. But yeah, she used to like but the only time I ever saw her like um down was when she talked to her mama. Okay. Like she she'd still be quiet, but when it, you know, whenever she talked to her mama, um, like her mama called to school one time and I didn't know, and um she came home and then she was like, you know, I feel like I was like, where'd that come from? I asked what happened, and um she said she talked to her mama. And I was just trying to kind of calm her down.

SPEAKER_09 26:31

That's when we're where Miranda called the school and talked to her in her classroom, but I think I don't know what happened. I know she said she called something.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

As the interview continues, detectives begin to change their approach. Up until this point, Andrew had been treated as a concerned father, someone helping in the search. But now, investigators start to consider a different possibility, one they hadn't seriously explored before. Instead of asking what happened to Lori, they begin asking Andrew if he had anything to do with her disappearance.

SPEAKER_09 27:02

Alright, I have to ask these questions. I would I've asked everybody these questions. Do you know where Lori is now?

SPEAKER_16 27:10

No, I do not.

SPEAKER_09 27:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_16 27:11

No, I do not. Anybody?

SPEAKER_09 27:15

I know. Alright. That's out of the way, so I want to ask you some other stuff too, okay? Again, we look into everybody, we look into everything. Alright? This job will make you cynical, and we have to go over every single single thing. For two reasons. One, we've got to make sure, because what's gonna happen is if we get asked, you know, why didn't you ask that question? You never you never asked the question. Well, you know, we didn't, and we'll never know, you know. And there and the reason we're asking is there's something happening at home that would have caused you to think that you couldn't go to work for whatever reason. Okay. Um the the day that day leading up to uh Lori going missing. So you went to work that night, came home, she was missing. That whole day before. Did you leave town at all? Was there any reason you would go to Jacksonville?

SPEAKER_16 28:29

Jacksonville?

SPEAKER_09 28:39

Okay. Um, because it looks like you went just before you went to work. So you went to Jacksonville during that day and then came back, then went to work. Um, do you know if you got home later than usual or earlier than usual?

SPEAKER_16 28:58

It depends on the time. Because sometimes if I do overtime, I get off a little late instead of like at oh it'd be like around like 11-12.

SPEAKER_11 29:12

Like she would play on her mom's phone and then Lori would play on your mom's phone so that they could play Roblox together. No. No. Whose phone should she play it on? Because she didn't have a phone based on that time frame.

SPEAKER_16 29:28

She didn't play Roblox on the phone. And if she did play on the phone, it wasn't her phone. It was it it had to be uh I don't even think it was her account. It was it had to be uh my girl sister. But she never played Roblox on my phone.

SPEAKER_09 29:46

Um we know she started certain like internet accounts. I think she started Twitter, she started Instagram and all this stuff, but at some point she had taken her phone away, and we didn't know if if before she even got a phone, did she start a different account? And maybe we can get that information from your old phone. Because since you've had this new one, it was after Lori left, right? And that's why that we you know your new one doesn't do as much good. The old one might. Because it uh just because you don't have her Instagram account active on your phone doesn't mean that it won't be in the history.

SPEAKER_16 30:38

But she didn't use my phone for Instagram. That's what I'm saying. Like she didn't use my phone. She had a phone, but she didn't have a phone. She didn't use my phone.

SPEAKER_11 30:48

Well, so that's kind of the problem we're running into, is we do know that she had other accounts, but I can't find them on your her phone, so I know somehow that she was accessing.

SPEAKER_16 31:02

She wouldn't get on my phone to play. Like she had a computer. She literally had a computer. If she had a computer, TV, she was straight. It wasn't like, oh I just got that phone too when I uh when I uh got her phone. That phone was new too.

SPEAKER_09 31:22

So you got them at the same time?

SPEAKER_16 31:23

Yeah. And uh yeah. So it wasn't like she was using my phone, she had a phone, but I took it away and she still had her computer. Like I never took the computer away.

SPEAKER_09 31:38

Yeah. Right. What about your other computer? You mentioned you had your own computer and you caught her doing some of the stuff on that. That was uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 31:55

Yeah. Yeah, but I just talked about it. Yeah, uh Yeah, I just talked about it.

SPEAKER_09 32:04

Okay. Is that computer synced to your phone? No. Are there any shared accounts between that computer and your phone? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

As the interview comes to an end, suspicion around Andrew begins to grow. There are too many questions, and not enough answers that truly make sense. To him, it may have felt like he was walking away without consequence, and for now, he was. But for investigators, something had changed. For the first time, they begin to seriously consider that Andrew may know more than he's saying, or possibly have more involvement than anyone initially thought. Still, detectives can't focus on just one possibility. They continue working every angle, following leads, checking locations, while quietly keeping Andrew on their radar as a potential suspect. It had been over a full year since Lori's disappearance. Investigators are still determined to find her, still holding on to the possibility that she could be somewhere with someone. But the reality is difficult to ignore. In the most serious cases, over 70% of children who are k die within just a few hours of being taken. It's a statistic that weighs heavily on everyone involved. And yet, despite the odds, officers continue pushing forward, refusing to give up the search. That determination leads them to the next step: reaching out to Lori's best friend.

SPEAKER_11 33:39

Hello. Hey, Ms. Addison, this is Detective Childers with TBD. Do you remember speaking to me earlier? Yes, yes. Hey, I was wondering if now's a good time to talk to Amaya.

SPEAKER_18 33:48

Hold on one second. Hello. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. And she's here.

SPEAKER_11 33:55

Hi, Amaya. My name is Detective Childers. I'm with Tahase Police Department. So I'm assigned uh Lori's missing person case. Um I just took it over and I just had some questions for you. Um so your sister had let one of our detectives know that you used to play Roblox online with Lori, um, and that she had the name Princess 044089. Are you sure that was her account?

SPEAKER_18 34:20

I believe so. That's the last person I played with a few months ago.

SPEAKER_11 34:25

Okay. Um do you think at all there's any chance it could have been somebody else?

unknown 34:31

No, dude.

SPEAKER_18 34:32

That's um, that's the last person I played with, like, since she's been gone. Okay. That last account that she used or made.

SPEAKER_11 34:43

Okay. Do you remember when that was the last time you guys played together?

SPEAKER_18 34:48

The last time I was in Telehase.

SPEAKER_11 34:54

I'm sorry, say that again?

SPEAKER_18 34:56

I said the last time I was in Telehase. Um, I'm I'm not sure, but it was a couple months ago. And the last time I was over there, she used my phone and made an account. And um, I don't know what the password is, but that was the last time.

SPEAKER_11 35:17

Okay. So do you remember if by chance that would have been in the summertime?

SPEAKER_18 35:24

Yeah, it was like during Thanksgiving time because when she was also here at our house, we was also playing um Roblox.

SPEAKER_11 35:32

That was at Thanksgiving?

SPEAKER_18 35:34

Yeah, like around Thanksgiving time.

SPEAKER_11 35:36

This this most recent Thanksgiving, like 2023?

SPEAKER_18 35:40

No.

SPEAKER_11 35:41

No, no, oh, okay. So it would have been probably about a year and a half ago.

SPEAKER_18 35:46

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_11 35:47

Okay, gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. Um, how often did Lori play Roblox?

SPEAKER_18 35:55

We tried to play whenever we can. Like if we put the board, we would just play Roblox or like walk around the house and you know, just laugh and talk.

SPEAKER_11 36:07

Gotcha. Did you guys ever play Roblox when you weren't together, like from each of your houses?

SPEAKER_18 36:12

No, she didn't have a cell phone to do that. But we'll just pick that I'll play Roblox on my mom's phone and she'll play it on my own.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

As investigators continue exploring every possible angle, they begin looking into Lori's online activity. With growing concerns around online platforms and cases involving children being contacted through games, officers consider whether something similar could have happened here. They examine accounts, messages, and any potential connections, including platforms like Roblox, to see if Lori may have been in contact with someone. But after following that lead, nothing concrete is found. There is no evidence linking her disappearance to any online interaction, and once again, investigators are left without answers. As the months pass, the case begins to go cold. Investigators are left with no solid leads, no clear direction, and no answers. But eventually, they are forced to return to someone they had always considered but hadn't fully focused on. The one person who had last contact with Lori, her father. So officers go back to Andrew Wiley, taking a closer look at his actions, his timeline, and everything he had told them from the very beginning. And what they begin to uncover only deepens their suspicion.

SPEAKER_11 37:34

Hey, I'm Detective Childers. Do you remember speaking with me on the phone? Yeah, sure. Um, is it just you that lives here?

SPEAKER_22 37:39

Uh yeah, just me.

SPEAKER_11 37:40

Okay, hey, we're we're almost done. Um, we really appreciate your help. I'm sorry to keep inconveniencing you.

SPEAKER_22 37:46

Honestly, I'm surprised if you found something because it's been so long since I know.

SPEAKER_11 37:51

Um was there anything in the apartment that was left when you moved in? Yes.

SPEAKER_22 37:56

Uh no, absolutely nothing. I just get keep getting his mail. Uh is it Wiley?

SPEAKER_11 38:03

Yeah, Wiley, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've been looking for the person for a year now. And like I said, it should be more than a few more minutes and we'll be done and out of there.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

When officers return to Andrew's previous residence, they discover he is no longer living there. With permission from the new tenant, investigators decide to take a closer look inside the property, searching for anything that may have been missed. And that's when they find something unexpected. Possible bloodstains. The discovery immediately raises concern, and the samples are collected and sent off for testing to determine whether they could be linked to Lori. With this new focus, officers begin actively searching for Andrew, trying to locate his new residence. This time, they're prepared. Investigators track him down and, now treating him as the primary suspect, obtain a search warrant for the home he's currently staying in. For the first time, the investigation is no longer just about finding Lori. It's about building a case against the person who may have been right in front of them all along. Weeks go by before investigators are finally able to determine where Andrew is staying. After working with multiple agencies and following up on different leads, detectives are able to track him down. When they arrive at the residence, he isn't inside. But this time, they're ready. With the search warrant already secured, officers don't wait. They move in, organized and prepared to search the entire property. Andrew has no idea what's unfolding, and when he returns home, he's met with an unexpected surprise.

SPEAKER_21 40:03

Apparently, that's not even me because this is George, you know, all the time by the judge. This is your copy to have. You keep that and you get a copy of it.

SPEAKER_16 40:12

And all this is referenced to Lord.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

As officers carry out the search, Andrew waits outside, appearing calm, almost as if this is all a waste of time. After more than a year with no evidence directly tying him to the case, he seems confident nothing will come back to him. But that confidence won't last. For now, he stands there, trying to make sense of what's happening, unaware of what investigators are about to uncover.

SPEAKER_03 40:57

Like what neither of us are just like the magnet children's and on the table. All we were really told is uh search on the next house, search items.

SPEAKER_16 41:19

I'm gonna get done back when you got done.

SPEAKER_03 41:21

Maybe like another hour or two.

SPEAKER_16 41:23

No, we've got to go.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

And once every done with that, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

Eventually, Andrew steps away as the search comes to an end. Detectives leave the property with several items, including cell phones, computers, tablets, and clothing, anything that could hold potential evidence. With this, investigators finally have what they need to begin a deeper forensic analysis, and Andrew is now firmly at the center of it all. But it would take months of testing, analyzing digital data, reviewing search history, and tracking location records before investigators could begin to piece everything together. However, as Andrew remains their main suspect, detectives know they can't ignore any possibility. So they continue expanding the investigation, including reaching out to Lori's mother, hoping she might provide insight into Andrew. But that conversation proves to be far from straightforward.

SPEAKER_09 42:27

I guess you had an appointment with Nashville PD and weren't able to make it for some reason, and you want to go ahead and do that now if you're able to.

SPEAKER_17 42:35

And I've been asking CPD for since the beginning for the files for these case. I'm not sure why y'all feel like the micro operations are running down. Okay, what files in all these?

SPEAKER_04 42:46

I want all the case operations away from the last case. Sure. So just just to give you kind of an update of what we can do since we got here.

SPEAKER_17 42:57

It's too late.

SPEAKER_04 42:58

Just doing everything we can to try to get a feel for uh who she was and what might have happened where she might be.

SPEAKER_17 43:05

Um I mean, uh that y'all know the scenario, and she's likely no longer with us, honestly speaking. Y'all do this, y'all investigate this, you know how this goes.

SPEAKER_04 43:14

That's possible.

SPEAKER_17 43:15

It's likely.

SPEAKER_04 43:15

It is it is likely.

SPEAKER_17 43:17

And you feel y'all are treating me, and the mess is my problem, and just I'm gonna air out all my grievances the show can't pass. She's treating me like a fucking criminal, like I did something. She was not in my care when all this went down. I'm dealing with the loss of my child and the gross negligence of Tallahassee Police Department. Yeah, the disgusting negligence of the department cost could have potentially cost me the life of my child. And now y'all banging on my door eight, nine months later, asking me for my DNA.

SPEAKER_05 43:46

We'll we'll take all of that. Okay. Um they put brand new detectives on a case.

SPEAKER_17 43:52

It's too late.

SPEAKER_05 43:54

I hope that it's not, but it could be.

SPEAKER_17 43:57

Because if I'm moving the child, if you I mean, y'all know how to do this. This is not if I'm moving a child, I'm gonna move the child in eight months. I'm not gonna wait for y'all to run down the house. We don't we don't think that you move the child. I'm not saying but anybody that did, because there's an adult, it has to be an adult involved. She can't sustain herself this long. So whatever, like thinking like in their pattern, if I know that I have a child that the police are looking for, I'm not just gonna hold them. I'm gonna move them. I'm gonna hide them.

SPEAKER_07 44:23

I'm gonna well if if you're thinking on the lines of placing the blame on us, then not the blame.

SPEAKER_17 44:33

I'm not placing the blame on y'all. I'm just part of how y'all handled it, it was just handled, it was fishing.

SPEAKER_08 44:39

Then you can can be on the on the right side of this thing.

SPEAKER_17 44:43

You can investigate every I'm on the right side of this thing. I don't have to say like there's there's no reason I'm not entirely I don't have to cooperate with y'all, I don't trust y'all.

SPEAKER_05 44:52

Okay. Well, one of the things is um so maternal DNA.

SPEAKER_17 44:57

I know how it works. I know how it works. Mitochondrial DNA, baby. I trust me, I got to match the DNA. And that's that's what we're trying to do. And I'm saying that I want the case file. Y'all get y'all want what y'all want, but I can't get what I want. Because what's gonna happen is that when these case files get lined up, this is gonna look real stupid. And y'all there's gonna be a lot of holes to poke in why this didn't happen, why it should have happened. Yeah. Okay, and and and so if you want what you want, and I want what I want, and this is how you get things done. This is how you get things done.

SPEAKER_00 45:28

While speaking with Lori's mother, detectives are met with frustration. She expresses concerns about how the investigation has been handled, feeling that more could have been done in the early stages of the case. Despite this, investigators remain focused. They still need to understand Andrew.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

Um, I have to ask, you know, your opinion. Could her father have done anything to her? Would he have?

SPEAKER_17 45:52

I can't speak on that as a fact and say because I don't know. I don't think that he would have, because I don't I mean that's what I'm asking.

SPEAKER_05 46:00

That's important to you.

SPEAKER_17 46:01

She's been down there like for summers and Christmas, so I don't think that he would hurt her.

SPEAKER_09 46:05

I really hope he wouldn't. And nothing happened while she was down there, no allegations of even any kind of abuse at all, or nothing like that.

SPEAKER_17 46:15

Not that I am aware of, but I don't he didn't talk to me.

SPEAKER_07 46:19

Yeah, okay. I get it.

SPEAKER_17 46:20

But I I mean I'm not gonna say like he didn't, but I I don't yeah, I hope he wouldn't hurt her.

SPEAKER_05 46:25

And I believe we have no evidence that he did. I mean, you know, forensics has you know went over his apartment with the fine scalm.

SPEAKER_09 46:32

And he's been helpful. He's he's he's he's actually provided a swab for his DNA.

SPEAKER_17 46:38

Yes, he should, he was negligent.

SPEAKER_05 46:40

Yeah, no, I'll be honest that we're a farce too. Which is a pain. Um and again, being completely honest, not trying to pull anything over on your bottom. Above and beyond, trying to tell you exactly what we're doing. Um we weren't sure how you feel about the map, so we did get it an order of one somebody just that would allow us to take the phone and extract the stuff from the bring it back to you tomorrow. We don't want to shoot the phone, we don't want to do anything. I don't want to be private phone because in this day and age, that iPhone is it's everything, right? You know. Um, so we didn't we don't want to take it back to telepassing. We want to do that here, bring it back to you in the morning. Um any video footage that you can upload to us, um, you know, Jerry can show you how to do that real quick, it's not that hard. Um, we we'll do it. Um, just anything that you can think of that can help.

SPEAKER_00 47:36

Sooner or later, detectives realize they aren't getting what they need. Nothing uncovered from this conversation helps build a case against Andrew, and nothing of significance is found on her phone either. Once again, investigators are left without the answers they were hoping for. But then the results from the evidence they collected begin to come back. And this time, it's exactly what they've been waiting for. Just three days before Lori is found, detectives make a major breakthrough. They begin to notice inconsistencies in Andrew's timeline, details that don't quite add up, so they take a closer look at his cell phone records. What they find changes everything. His phone places him in a remote area in Georgia at the exact time Lori disappeared, directly contradicting the story he had given investigators, and it doesn't stop there. Search history recovered from his device reveals queries related to remote locations, including areas in Georgia and Alabama, suggesting knowledge or even planning. For investigators, the pieces are finally starting to come together. But the biggest breakthrough is still yet to come. On the day Lori's body was found, she would be discovered in Thomas County, specifically in a remote wooded area near the Florida border. The area had recently undergone a controlled burn, a plant fire used to clear thick vegetation. Because of this, dense brush and debris were cleared away and the grounds became visible. After the burn, human remains were exposed and noticed in the area, and authorities were called to the scene. The remains were then collected and forensically tested, and they were later confirmed to be Lori Page. Now, with this, investigators already had key evidence. Phone data from Andrew Wiley had shown that his phone had traveled to that exact area around the time Lori disappeared. So when the body was found there, it directly matched the evidence they already had. The very next day, detectives locate Andrew, who at this point has no idea that Lori's body has just been found.

SPEAKER_08 49:46

You wanna come over? You wanna come over to my car?

SPEAKER_06 49:56

When did you move to Telamassi?

SPEAKER_05 49:58

Uh September.

SPEAKER_06 49:59

September? And uh you still work for the fruit?

SPEAKER_08 50:16

I heard they put you on the hand and wave or whatever. Um I don't know if they're I thought it all came about as a gun. Okay. Um, do you have any weapons on you?

SPEAKER_20 50:35

No, I guess. Mind if I touch you down?

SPEAKER_08 50:52

You know why we're here, right?

SPEAKER_09 50:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 51:03

Come on, go on. Uh we're gonna walk in and just have a seat in front of the car.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

With Andrew now in custody, they transport him to the station to start questioning him on what exactly had happened and try to get the truth out of him. Now at the station, detectives confront Andrew. However, he doesn't give them any real answers.

SPEAKER_09 51:27

I'd love to have a discussion with you about why you're here. You want to do that? No. Okay. Um, give me one second. You're right. Give me an idea why you're here. Andy, we can play games if you want to, but I'm tired of playing games.

unknown 51:53

Alright.

SPEAKER_09 51:57

Is there anything you want to ask me? You brought me here. I I know I brought you here. You don't want to know why? You got the phone? You're not concerned in the least? You're you're a corrections officer. You just got brought to the police department in handcuffs. And you don't have any questions. You're right. Not one question. Silent treatment. I mean. W wh how do you want to play this, man?

SPEAKER_26 52:45

I mean, if I were in your position, I'd have a ton of questions as well. Why I was here now.

SPEAKER_09 52:51

And and I'm not gonna pretend you're not a smart man. I know you're a smart man, so you understand the difference between murder, manslaughter, and everything in between, right? Negligent manslaughter, any of those things? You understand that? You've seen people come in and out of that prison day in, day out, different types of charges. How do the ones look that are charged with murder versus the ones that are charged with lesser offenses? Do they look different? Do they act different? Which one do you want to be? You know why you're here. Like I said, I'm not playing games with you.

SPEAKER_26 53:35

It's over, man.

SPEAKER_09 53:36

Do what you have to do to make this right now. You won't have another opportunity. You'll be looking at a bunch of people in a jury booth that won't give a f won't give a flying hell about what you say when it comes your time. They're not gonna care. They're gonna look at everything else, and then they're gonna convict you. But they have to get it right. I need them to get it right, you need them to get it right, so we need to know what actually happened. Okay?

SPEAKER_06 54:21

Was it a mistake? Was it an accident? Doesn't matter. Keep it up, man.

SPEAKER_09 54:28

This is your life, not mine. I don't give a shit. When this is over, when this is over, that's it. That's the only opportunity you're gonna get. I'm gonna go about my business, I'm gonna work the next case. Okay?

SPEAKER_26 54:40

Doesn't matter. The mystery's over. Alright.

SPEAKER_09 54:43

Acting like that is what's pissing me off.

SPEAKER_26 54:47

Lori's dead. You're charged with her murder. What's am I gonna do? She's dead. We found her remains. Where? You tell us. Because you wouldn't be here charged with murder for your daughter's death if we didn't have evidence to support that you did it. We wouldn't be doing it all speculation, we wouldn't be doing it all somebody thinks you did it. We've got evidence to support that you did it. Yes. Because what we want to know is how did it happen? That's what we're giving you the opportunity to tell us. Did you just get mad at her one day and decide this is the day? Was it an accident? Did something happen and you got scared after the fact?

SPEAKER_09 55:53

Did you plan it? I mean, those are all questions I would want to be answered if I were a jury.

SPEAKER_26 56:02

We wouldn't be doing our job if we weren't sitting here asking you these questions to try and give you the opportunity to tell us what actually happened that day.

SPEAKER_09 56:10

And if I were on trial for it, I would like to give the jury those answers before they speculate as to what it was. Because then them coming up with their own ideas is gonna be very bad for you. Premeditated murder does not look well for you in court. But you know what? Every parent up there has been frustrated with their kids. Every parent up there has thought about, oh my god, I wish this was just stopped. They're screaming, they're yelling, I can't control them. People understand that. People understand what it brings them to. Getting mad, punching walls, doing whatever, you know, that kind of stuff. Some people do lose their temper, they understand that. But you know what they don't understand and what they don't like? Is someone sitting in your position with a smile on his face, not giving a damn one way or another. That's what they're gonna see. Change your mind. Don't let him see that. Let him see who you are.

SPEAKER_16 57:30

I need to worry about it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:01

However, they already had enough evidence to build a strong case against him, so that very same day, he would be taken to jail. Once in custody, he would spend around two months in jail before dying in custody from a pulmonary embolism, which was later confirmed to be a blood clot in his lung. As for Lori, her cause of death was never officially determined. Once again, we have a Patreon with uncensored and raw footage. Link in the description.