4 Year Old Reveals Family's Horrifying Plan

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SPEAKER_09 0:12

It's okay. It's okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

This is four-year-old Presley. In the next few seconds, she will lead officers to her father's lifeless body outside their apartment.

SPEAKER_23 0:24

Hey, he's over here. He's in front of 406. Hey, hey, who's in here? Is there anyone in here? Okay, okay. It's okay. It's okay, come here.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Hours earlier, 23-year-old Colby Vinson had regained custody of his daughter after more than a year in court. It was meant to be a fresh start. Instead, detectives are left with a chilling question: was this random or was it planned?

SPEAKER_16 0:47

What's up? Did you hear anything? What? Did you see any anyone running?

SPEAKER_01 0:54

As they retraced Colby's final hours, they uncovered a custody battle, hidden messages, and a family conflict far more complicated than anyone realized.

SPEAKER_28 1:03

Colby is deceased.

SPEAKER_04 1:09

Oh, he was trying to get big like Snoop Dogg. Okay, bro. I'll deal with you if I have to.

SPEAKER_07 1:14

Like Kobe takes a blank for everything.

SPEAKER_12 1:18

This looks so, so bad for me, you're horrible.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

Can you turn around, put your hand behind your back for me?

SPEAKER_05 1:26

That son of a bitch.

SPEAKER_01 1:36

On the night of March 19th, 2023, deputies in Navarre, Florida responded to a report of a shooting outside an apartment complex along Navarre Parkway. At first, the call seems like another routine emergency, but it would quickly become something far more horrifying than anyone expected.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Hi, this is Caitlin Zinner of the County Sheriff's Office. We got a call about something going on at uh Coyogran. Are you there right now?

SPEAKER_22 2:03

Um, I'm inside the barman. Um I was uh down to the the stairs with my dog and uh I heard something but I thought it was um those uh fire fire thingies that that people used to be. Did you see anybody actually get hit? Uh yeah, there is a man downstairs. Um a man got downstairs. Yeah, and he was on the floor and the actual blood. I know. I just Okay, hold on, give me a second.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

As officers arrived, they discovered twenty-three-year-old Colby Vinson outside his home, unresponsive, just hours after regaining custody of his young daughter. Just a few steps away, the child he had fought so hard to see again was left standing in the darkness. And as detectives began unraveling the events of that night, they were drawn into a family conflict far more troubling than anyone first realized.

SPEAKER_23 2:59

He's in front of 406. Hey, hey, who's in here? Is there anyone in here? Okay, okay. It's okay. Come here, come here.

SPEAKER_14 3:14

Come here, baby. Come here.

SPEAKER_23 3:47

What's your name? What's your name? How old are you?

SPEAKER_24 4:00

You want mommy? Where's mommy at? And where?

SPEAKER_21 4:11

Where's mommy working at? Is she working?

SPEAKER_14 4:17

Where at your house?

SPEAKER_10 4:24

Where's your house then?

SPEAKER_14 4:28

Stickers? Snickers?

SPEAKER_06 4:36

You see it? You want me to put it on you? Yeah, we can get mommy. See, I can be a policeman too. Look at this.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

Officers on scene had almost no information. They didn't yet know the child's identity, who might be involved, or what had led to this moment. Their immediate focus was protecting the young girl, moving her away from the chaos and into safety. But as the reality of the situation settled in, urgency took over. Finding witnesses and identifying a suspect would now become a race against time. While the scene is being secured, additional officers spread out to canvas the neighborhood for answers. Almost by chance, they encounter the very person who had placed the 911 call. Someone who may hold the first real piece of the puzzle.

SPEAKER_31 5:32

Ma'am, did you hear anything? Alright, we have a witness right here. Hey, go upstairs.

SPEAKER_14 5:40

Come up, come upstairs with me. I saw the first one. I just call you? Okay, okay, come up here when we're calling.

SPEAKER_31 5:47

Uh we don't know right now, they're working on it. Alright.

SPEAKER_18 5:53

So where did the two guys, the two guys, uh not next door, not this door, but the door after that, they saw the man because I I couldn't see his face.

SPEAKER_31 6:04

So this not not this next rogue, but the next rogue?

SPEAKER_19 6:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_31 6:07

They saw him or they they did it?

SPEAKER_19 6:09

They saw the face of the man who shot the guy.

SPEAKER_31 6:13

199.68.

SPEAKER_18 6:16

I was gone that going downstairs downstairs when I heard the shot, and I saw the man over there, but the guy was walking that way, and the two guys were uh over there. Um they were just I guess they were just getting here.

SPEAKER_31 6:33

No, you're good, you're good. You relax. Just relax.

SPEAKER_18 6:37

Yes, then, then, yeah.

SPEAKER_31 6:41

Hey, 235, detain him. Detain him.

SPEAKER_18 6:44

No, no, no, they saw no no no no no, they saw him.

SPEAKER_31 6:48

Okay, okay, that's it's just that's just protocol, okay? He's involved with what's the the uh military 235, he's possibly a witness. He's possibly a witness.

SPEAKER_18 6:57

No, they're they saw it.

SPEAKER_31 6:58

Okay, where does where does he live? Do you know?

SPEAKER_18 7:00

He lives over there, uh the door that I just got.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

While one officer continued questioning the first witness, others spent the next several minutes canvassing the surrounding area. It wasn't long before they encountered another pair of witnesses, individuals whose information would begin to shed new light on an already complicated case.

SPEAKER_25 7:19

So I put up on a bike, it was a guy uh heard a gunshot.

SPEAKER_17 7:23

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_25 7:24

He walked back this way, he told us to go back upstairs.

SPEAKER_17 7:26

The person that shot him?

SPEAKER_25 7:28

No. So some dude came up and told us that uh that somebody shot down the hat. He always holding a paperback, but I don't know if he was a shooter or not. Okay. He just told us to go back upstairs because he said that he saw a body drop. Okay. So we'll think about it.

SPEAKER_18 7:40

He was wearing a he was wearing like an OC color um hat now, like the straps on his backpack. Oh, yeah. He was wearing a like a jacket. I don't know if he was like a zip-up or what, but it looked like it was a little bit like a hunger side.

SPEAKER_25 7:52

Yeah, no, it's like an older work.

SPEAKER_18 7:54

He was in his like 40s, 50s.

SPEAKER_16 7:55

Have you guys seen him around the complex? I thought he worked here.

SPEAKER_14 7:58

Yeah, I thought he worked here, too. I don't know.

SPEAKER_16 8:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Despite the growing urgency, officers still had almost nothing to go on. The suspect was described only as a tall white male, about six feet tall, with a larger build and a dark green or brown hat. Far too vague to lead anywhere. Running out of immediate leads, the team divided their efforts. Some returned to the young girl, hoping she might recall a detail others had missed, while the rest began canvassing door to door, searching for the one clue that could break the case open.

SPEAKER_06 8:44

You want watching YouTube? You like watching Mickey Mouse?

SPEAKER_14 8:48

Mommy Mickey Mouse Clubhouse? Mommy. You know that one? Mommy.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Unfortunately, the young girl was too overwhelmed to provide any answers. All she could do was cry out for her mother after the traumatic moments she had just experienced. Rather than press her for information, the officers shifted their focus to comforting her, making sure she felt safe in the middle of an unfolding tragedy. As officers tried to bring the young girl a sense of calm, others spread out across the area, going door to door in search of any detail that could explain the violence that had just unfolded.

SPEAKER_17 9:37

Hi, sir, Deputy Simmons. Sorry to wake you. In the last hour, about 45 minutes, you heard any loud pops or anything you've been outside? No, I haven't. You haven't heard anything at all? No, sir. I've been asleep though. Okay. Yeah, so we'll get started to wake you again. I I can already tell. Do you have any cameras or anything? No, sir. Okay. All right. And do you know any of your neighbors on the first floor? No, sir. Okay. Well, sorry to wake you. I appreciate your time. All right. Where do you live? Right there? Okay.

SPEAKER_24 10:07

Um, have you been at work all day? Okay. Um, so I think they should have let this, but yeah, you're good to go into your apartment. If you need to come back out, try to use your your back door for a while there, ma'am. Okay. Um, when did you go to work?

SPEAKER_05 10:28

Um, I started shipping at 14 30.

SPEAKER_24 10:31

Okay. Alright. So you had been gone, didn't hear or see nothing at all today.

SPEAKER_27 10:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_24 10:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 10:41

Hey, Sheriff's Office.

SPEAKER_27 10:42

Hi, what's wrong?

SPEAKER_16 10:43

Did you hear anything?

SPEAKER_27 10:44

No.

SPEAKER_16 10:45

Okay. What? Did you see any anyone run by? Um, no, what's going on? Okay. All right. Do me a favor, can you stay in your apartment for now? Yes. All right.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

With no immediate answers from witnesses, investigators shifted their focus to the scene itself, examining Colby's lifeless body and the nearby property for even the smallest piece of evidence that could move the case forward.

SPEAKER_23 11:09

What kind of GSW is it?

SPEAKER_24 11:15

Take it off. Start contacting neighbors. Ma'am, did you hear anything? Anything.

SPEAKER_23 11:21

Nothing. Do we know his name? Okay. No.

SPEAKER_31 11:36

I've had any.

SPEAKER_21 11:37

I guess we've got the keys here, more than likely, yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_21 12:08

I got a wallet here. You want to talk about the trees? Alright. I guess it's fun.

SPEAKER_17 12:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 12:18

Come on, boss.

SPEAKER_21 12:20

Yeah, if you go back towards his part of the house, you can smell the weed. And there's a couple containers. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 12:29

Well, he's got a a a chain in the uh if you're going downstairs, we'll have to use one of the other stairs, not this one. Okay.

SPEAKER_21 12:35

Uh.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

As the chaos of the scene slowly settled, every step officers had taken seemed to lead to the same place. There were no clear suspects, no solid witnesses, and no obvious explanation for what had happened. For a moment, the case felt as though it might go cold before it had even begun. But then, an unexpected individual stepped forward, and what this person revealed would become the first real breakthrough, one that would pull investigators into a disturbing family dynamic at the center of it all.

SPEAKER_05 13:11

Um, my granddaughter came to stay with her dad for the first night in every year.

SPEAKER_28 13:16

And um my this is my best friend.

SPEAKER_05 13:19

Her kids live upstairs, and called her and called me if there's something going on over here, and I just want to make sure that she's okay.

SPEAKER_24 13:27

Yeah, there's no female here. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_21 13:32

You said it united for No, hold on, calm down. I don't know if it's the right is it's the right door or not. Um so you're a relative?

SPEAKER_05 13:41

I'm gonna pull my phone out because I would 406.

SPEAKER_21 13:47

What's his name?

SPEAKER_30 13:48

The guy Colby Vinson.

SPEAKER_21 13:51

Um, I'll find out for you. Are your uh grandparents or she's grandmother?

SPEAKER_05 13:56

The baby's grandmother.

SPEAKER_21 13:57

Okay, I'll be right back. Yeah, we're gonna have a detective talk to them first.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Once officers confirmed the child's identity as four-year-old Presley, investigators shifted their focus to the person closest to her that night. Her grandmother. As soon as the opportunity arose, detectives began to question her, searching for answers that might explain the events leading up to the shooting, and whether she held information others did not.

SPEAKER_10 14:25

This is Colby over here, so I'm sorry, and you're you're Preston's mom.

SPEAKER_05 14:29

Presley.

SPEAKER_10 14:30

Presley, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05 14:31

No, I'm not Presley's mom. I'm Rachel's mom. I'm Presley's grandmother.

SPEAKER_10 14:35

Preston's grandmother. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 14:37

What did he do? Can you tell me?

SPEAKER_10 14:39

Well, that's what I'm we're gonna try to we're we're trying to figure out here. What's your name, ma'am?

SPEAKER_05 14:43

Preston.

SPEAKER_10 14:46

Um, Obi is deceased.

SPEAKER_05 14:48

What?

SPEAKER_10 14:49

So that's what that's why this is imperative that we try to figure out as much information about what's been going on with him, Waitley. It's our experience that these don't happen at random. We're working on that. We're working on all that right now. All that is being taken care of. All that is being taken care of right now, okay? What's been going on with Col Colby Orkle lately? What has he been involved with? Who's he been talking to? Anything we know?

SPEAKER_05 15:28

Oh my god, to be honest with you. I haven't spoken to him in almost a year because we have been in a custody battle with him because he wanted her, but his lifestyle was not something that we really wanted with Presley. The court case, I don't know what happened there, it's all got screwed up. And they're going on with court. They gave him 50-50 custody after not seeing her for an entire year. This is the first time he saw her in a freaking year. Oh my god. And we even said it out loud to the frickin judge. I bet you were that we were scared of his lifestyle.

SPEAKER_10 16:07

Of Colby's lifestyle.

SPEAKER_05 16:08

I don't know what he's been up to. Hopefully I was afraid of God that he would pull his head out of his ass and well tell me about Colby. Kobe is a great person, but let me give you me wrong. Kobe loved him just like he was one of my children. He is oh my god. He got infatuated with drugs in marijuana. And he swore to me that that's all he was doing. We find pictures of him dropping acid and this, that, and the other. He's dropped a lot of weight. And so he filed 50-50 custody. He was only getting her for like three or four hours on a Saturday anyway. So whatever.

SPEAKER_10 16:53

When did that change?

SPEAKER_05 16:54

Um, about a year ago.

SPEAKER_10 16:56

The 50-50 custody.

SPEAKER_05 16:58

Oh that happened today.

SPEAKER_10 16:59

Oh, that happened.

SPEAKER_05 17:00

I mean, we went to court last Monday and he got her for the first time today.

SPEAKER_28 17:05

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_10 17:12

How did you get how did you get notified to come and come up with it?

SPEAKER_05 17:16

Dustin and Shelby Henderson live up in 430 or 431, something like that. And um they called their mom. You know, that's my best friend. Kim's my best friend in the world.

SPEAKER_10 17:29

That her mo her her kids are.

SPEAKER_05 17:31

Her kids live here. And um I called her earlier because I was, you know, I traumatized. I did I didn't want her to come. Something in my gut told me not to let her go, but it's court ordered. You can't go can't break court order, you have to go to jail. That's what we're told.

SPEAKER_10 17:48

In regards to custody, is there anybody that would want would have wanted to harm Colby in regards to that?

SPEAKER_05 17:53

No, none of us like the idea, but none of us have actually hurt him. I mean, that's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_10 18:00

They talk about his work employment, they talk about any of that stuff that they throw up.

SPEAKER_28 18:04

He's a mar he's a manager at some marijuana distribution place. Okay. I'm so sorry, I'm Burken, but I'm trying not to throw up. You're okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

As detectives questioned Christina, her answers began to quietly shape a possible narrative of what might have happened. Even so, nothing was certain, and no conclusions could be placed on paper just yet. To move closer to the truth, investigators decided to speak with Christina's closest friend, hoping she might hold another piece of the puzzle. But what she would reveal next would begin to turn the investigation in a far more troubling direction.

SPEAKER_30 18:41

Um, what's your relation to you? Christy is my best friend. We've been friends for 30 years. Um, our kids grew up together, my daughter, my son, and her daughter, who is the baby's mama.

SPEAKER_15 18:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_30 18:57

How long was Cody and Rachel? Yes, Presley's mom is Rachel. They were together two or three years.

SPEAKER_15 19:10

Never married?

SPEAKER_30 19:11

No. Um, never married. But um like I said, he hadn't seen Presley in over a year because Rachel got pictures of him holding a bong, and he's got Presley on his lap, and he's holding a bong, and there's drugs on the table in the picture. And he's posted it on Instagram or one of those social media things. Yes. And um, so Pra Rachel went and got her, and she said it'll be a cold day in hell before you'll see her again until you straighten your ass up.

SPEAKER_29 20:05

Can you explain the relationship between Cody and the baby's mama?

unknown 20:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_30 20:12

It's uh I'm sorry, her name is her name's Rachel. Rachel. Um, it's strange, and um she's had to change her phone number, and then the court gave her his her phone gave him her phone number again when they went to court. And um because he was harassing her, he was threatening her. Um, and there's there's record of all this. His parents have a and his grandparents have a lot, a lot of money. So his grandparents have oh yeah. And this is yeah, his his grandparents and his parents have a lot of money. So does Kobe work? Um yeah, he works at a dispensary.

unknown 20:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 20:50

Do you know which one that is?

SPEAKER_30 20:52

I couldn't tell you, but Christy would know. I just know that he went and got a medical marijuana card and now he works at a dispensary. So he gets the kids and he stays jacked up most of the time. The main thing that Rachel has the biggest problem with is all the drugs and all the people that he had in and out. He used to have an apartment in Fort Walton or uh Fort Walton. I'm gonna say Fort Walton. He worked at the dispensary there for a while and he lived in an apartment out behind it.

SPEAKER_29 21:25

And um to your analogy know if he ever has done any harsher drugs in marijuana? Oh yeah. I I know he did coke. Have you heard what kind of people he hangs out with? They're they're drug addicts. Everyone out of things in Coke and Marijuana. Yeah, yeah. Is Colby okay? Colby got it. That's why we're trying to figure anything out. Like we could think of anybody that would want to do a morning.

SPEAKER_30 22:05

No, it's somebody to do with drugs. It's a drug deal. Um, he's been dealing, he don't he dealt when he was in Fort Walton.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

As the second round of interviews came to a close, detectives found themselves facing two possible explanations. Both Christina and her closest friend described Colby as someone who had recently begun using drugs more heavily, even smoking around Presley. They claimed his behavior had changed, that different substances were part of his daily routine, and unfamiliar people were coming and going from his apartment. To investigators, this raised one possibility that Colby may have crossed paths with the wrong person, leading to a violent confrontation connected. Drugs. But another detail stood out even more. There had been ongoing tension between Colby and his ex-girlfriend Rachel, centered entirely around Presley. A custody battle had stretched on for over a year, during which Colby had not been able to see his daughter. And on the very day he was finally reunited with her, his life was suddenly taken. With these facts in front of them, detectives were left considering two very different paths. Either this was violence tied to Colby's lifestyle, or the truth was much closer to home. The very next day, investigators shifted their focus. Their goal was simply to speak with anyone who had a close relationship with Colby, hoping to understand what had been happening behind closed doors and to piece together the truth of that night. Their first approach was Rachel, Presley's mother, and what she would say had the potential to change the direction of the entire case. And as the investigation deepened, Rachel began revealing details that painted an even darker picture of the reality surrounding Colby's life, one far more complicated than detectives had first imagined.

SPEAKER_26 24:00

Hi. Detective Marino.

SPEAKER_04 24:01

Hi, hi, I'm Rachel. Uh Vince Mark Hill. Hi, hi.

SPEAKER_06 24:06

You don't let me ask him why you guys separate?

SPEAKER_04 24:08

He has a drug obsession. Like, no matter what environment I would put him in, he would just bring the drugs to it. I could get him out of the environment and he would be the drug dealer. I could take him. We moved out because his family said that if you have a baby and you live with your family, it just automatically ruins your family relationship. Like you don't get to grow as a family. And he took that personally. So we moved out. And we were four minutes from my mom's house, and that was okay. I was like, okay, fine. Well, once we moved out, he started selling drugs, he started growing drugs in our house. And I had my kid, and I was like, hey, we you can't do this. Like you, this is a dangerous situation for our daughter. Like you got to stop. So about six months later, after I realized that he wasn't going to stop putting her in these situations, that this wasn't gonna, this was what he wanted to do. He was pushing his life towards the situation. He was going to open a wake and bake dispensary where he sold his own drugs and had his own breakfast in. Like that was what he wanted to do. And I said, that's fine. I just can't have presently a part of that because I don't trust that system. If you sell drugs, somebody else knows that you either have the drugs or you have the money. And it's a dangerous situation for our daughter. So it got to the point where he was growing shrooms in our closet and he was having acid on our coffee tables. And it was just, I was like, no. So I gotta go home.

SPEAKER_06 25:47

All the stuff that he was yelling, was he also using that?

SPEAKER_04 25:49

Yeah, I have pictures of him dropping acid and eating shrooms and making shroom tea and bragging about how it was such a great thing. How he was trying to get big like Snoop Dogg.

SPEAKER_06 26:04

Do you know anybody that would want to hurt Colby in a moment like this?

SPEAKER_04 26:09

I don't know. Like I said, I haven't spoken to him in almost 10 months. I don't I literally, I've gotten to where it was sickening for a man that was willing to hurt our child to get out of half and a change diapers, a man that was willing to call send her back with water blisters all over her body because he doesn't like the way sunscreen feels on his hands when it was spray on sunscreen I sent him with. It was sickening to think about it. So I just, okay, bro, I'll deal with you if I have to.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

As questioning continued, Rachel began describing a very specific version of Colby's life, one that closely aligned with what Christina and her friend had already told investigators. In her account, Colby was portrayed as unstable and heavily involved in drugs, someone she believed could not properly ensure their daughter's safety. This, she explained, was why the thought of Presley being alone with him left her deeply unsettled. And as detectives pressed further, her story only grew more troubling.

SPEAKER_04 27:16

How did your um mom find out what she is nosy? Um, you know, in that apartment complex, my mom's got a best friend that has kids that are 30, 40 years old. I don't know how old they are, but they live there too with their kids up in the same complex on the floor above them. So as soon as she found out that we actually had to do drop off and actually were being forced to let her go for the week, she said, Hey, this is where our baby's gonna be at. Can you please keep an eye out for her? Um, she might be on the swings. This is what he looks like, this is what she looks like, and can you please just look? And then um, this is what's going on. She said, Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's perfect. Um, and then that night, Duncan and Sam, which are the kids of my mom's best friend, called Kim and said, Hey, there's cops all downstairs. Maybe you guys should come see what's going on. So Kim calls my mom, just being nosy saying, Hey, there's cops down at the um whatever the place is called. And then um, which one of the chicken out? She's like, hey, I'm gonna run with Kim somewhere. Oh, okay, it's like it's late, but okay. I didn't think anything of it.

SPEAKER_06 28:41

I'm so scared. Well, I'll do the interview and we'll just hope for the best of shins.

SPEAKER_26 28:47

Just take a minute. I'm gonna turn this recording off real quick and you can dig your tissue figure about it for a minute. I understand.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

As the questioning of Rachel came to an end, investigators shifted their attention back to Christina, this time conducting a second interview in a more controlled environment. Meanwhile, Rachel seemed to believe her account had successfully portrayed Colby in a negative light. But detectives were beginning to notice something else, another side to the story that didn't fully align with what they had been told. Behind the scenes, pieces were starting to form into a timeline, and before that timeline could be revealed, investigators knew they still needed to speak with several other people connected to the case.

SPEAKER_06 29:28

I talked to you last night. Very shortly. I know you talked to probably a million people. Um just wanted to actually talk to you a little bit more, so sorry if I asked the same questions you know, everybody else asked.

SPEAKER_05 29:43

Yep. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 29:44

So I'm I'm Detective Marino. Um, I talked to your friend that was in this movie, Kim.

SPEAKER_22 29:50

Yeah, I thought to talk to him.

SPEAKER_06 29:52

So I talked I talked to Kim and then you talked to uh my partner Kelly. Do you know if you ever have physical with Rachel?

SPEAKER_05 29:59

Not that I'm aware of, no. They they very rarely are you I mean, it's just we're just we're not people that yell.

SPEAKER_06 30:09

I mean Did you make physical with the baby?

SPEAKER_05 30:12

Um I did not personally see it. Rachel, when they were living over at Chipley, um I think I said it right. She showed him videos and he said that she was just being over dramatic. Um that's not real. So from then on she just didn't leave them. She never showed you those video. Not a hand shaking or never because I would we don't hurt presently. I'm sorry. You told me you weren't doing anything else. You know, you're bragging about dropping passage or coffee table, and I did see the video of that. Um here's a coffee table with a seat on it. Um, and her watching TV right behind it. And it's full of all kinds of He told me they were dab oil, but it looks like freaking neck bomb or anything else to me. Um there's all kind of stuff on the table. It's a coffee table. She's barely three years old. Are you freaking kidding me? You know, so that's where I was at with that. And I was like, I'm done, I'm done. No more.

SPEAKER_06 31:19

How did you uh come to find out what was going on?

SPEAKER_05 31:24

I'm nosy. Um, well, no, because my best friend's children, well, son and his wife live there. Um and daughter-in-law, Dustin and Shelby, they live there. And we were we were nervous about her being gone for a week. We really were. Um so I called them. I'm like, hey, just keep an eye out. If you see her out at the park, you know, you see her around. Just let them know that she's okay. So that's my that is my big thing. I want to know what she saw. I and I don't know how to ver to to say it without it sounding just ugly, but did uh how much did she see and how trauma you know, kids are resilient, I understand that.

SPEAKER_06 32:14

She didn't see anything. Um obviously she discloses you know, so we'll talk about more avenues after that. Um when you were taking her home, did she say anything?

SPEAKER_05 32:26

On the way home, which and I've been getting my thumbnail, um she asked me for my cup, I gave her my cup, and then she says, Um, Daddy's sleeping on the porch. He was buying medicine. And I'm I am record on my phone.

SPEAKER_06 32:42

Daddy was sleeping on the porch.

SPEAKER_05 32:43

Daddy was sleeping on the porch. Um, I could record on my phone, and that little sucker didn't say anything other than I want a drink, I want my mommy, and here's your cup back. I don't want her screwed up, is my problem.

SPEAKER_26 32:55

Sure. And whenever she said that, I just want to clarify um with Rachel um as far as who who she calls what. Did she say daddy to you or did she say Colby? She said Colby. She said Colby.

unknown 33:06

Okay, Colby.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

As the interview came to a close, officers had little choice but to step back and regroup, allowing everyone involved to return home for the night. For a brief moment, the investigation seemed to stall, suspended between unanswered questions and incomplete truths. But by the very next day, detectives realized they could no longer follow the same path. Time was moving forward, and so was the case. So they chose a different angle. One that led them to someone with a far deeper connection to Colby, someone who had known him for most of his life. What this next conversation would reveal would begin to shift the entire direction of the investigation and make it clear that this story was far more complicated than anyone first believed. Now, imagine seeing so much more. Well, that's why we went all out and decided to create channels in every niche, which are still based on true crime for you to enjoy. I mean, who doesn't like seeing people's reactions like these? From no commentary to just interrogation. Because I know some of you guys hate that, but that's not the end. We really enjoy what we are building, so we have an exclusive Patreon community where they get first-hand access to anything we post and all uncensored footage and images. And some of the things are truly horrifying.

SPEAKER_07 35:00

So you've known Colby since his private, maybe a little before he was four years old.

SPEAKER_06 35:08

And that's when you all lived in Alabama.

SPEAKER_07 35:11

The time Colby got stopped and they found marijuana. Well, the way we found out about that was Rachel called Megan crying, saying that, you know, Kobe had gotten stopped and then arrested for marijuana. If this is the case, if this is what Kobe's doing, uh you and Presley need to stay away from him. Y'all don't need to be around that. And I can't remember. Oh. Megan went down to and talked to the officer that arrested him. She just wanted to find out what happened. And he told him that not only Rachel was in the truck with him, and maybe one of her uh cousins or something was with him as well. Rachel's cousin. Yeah. That's how we knew. We really started knowing she's very manipulative and lies. Because she was just trying to let Kobe take the blame for everything. And like she was just the innocent victim. But she was there the whole time. Kobe's just crying. What happened? And the lawyer said, don't worry, those tears of joy.

SPEAKER_06 36:39

And uh When was that for hearing?

SPEAKER_07 36:42

We went the 15th. Of this month? Yes, it was the 15th. He said, oh great. So the our lawyer, Kobe's lawyer, said, look, this is what happened. He said, Rachel and her lawyer, they were totally unprepared. Our lawyer made them look stupid. At one point, I know Rachel is on the stand talking. She thinks she can just tell you something and just keeps talking, like, and she makes everything right, but she's digging herself a hole. And at some point, the at one point the judge said, Miss Moore, you have a lawyer. I suggest you utilize him. Because she was digging her hole. But anyway, the lot the judge saw right through him and immediately gave Colby temporarily, temporary 50% custody. And I think they said they let Colby even choose the dates when he wanted. And it was Sunday to Sunday. So we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_06 37:55

He has a for a week, and then mom would have probably.

SPEAKER_01 38:01

As the interview continued, detectives began to see a very different version of Rachel emerge. The man now speaking with investigators was Bradford Minton, Colby's stepfather, and someone who had known both of them for years. In Bradford's account, Rachel was described as manipulative and dishonest, someone he believed was capable of shaping false narratives to serve her own interests. It was a perspective that stood in sharp contrast to what detectives had heard before. But Bradford wasn't finished. Before the interview ended, he revealed something else, a detail that would send investigators down an entirely new path in the case.

SPEAKER_06 38:46

You just explained the whole day to us up until we pretty much knocked on your door. Okay. Do you know what time now?

SPEAKER_07 39:01

Probably. We got her at 6 30. Probably got her at 6 35, so no later than 6 45. Go in and Priestley goes walking in like she owns a place and looking around, we're showing her. Hey. Presley, you want to see her in your room?

unknown 39:21

Yeah. Kobe.

SPEAKER_07 39:24

Kobe was just a really, really good guy.

SPEAKER_06 39:30

Um was his apartment clean when you first showed up? Yeah. Is there anything out of the ordinary that you noticed by around there? No.

SPEAKER_07 39:40

I remember his floor being a little dirty. It wasn't dirty to him.

SPEAKER_06 39:45

Um was there a lot of stuff on his I guess there were a dining room table?

unknown 39:50

There was a few things on it. I can't.

SPEAKER_13 39:53

As a parent, did you ever have concerns in with in regards to like his job or anything that could have been going on outside of his job?

SPEAKER_07 40:02

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I know he has dealt with depression and stuff in the past, and he's admitted to doing illegal drugs in the past. I get it. But he didn't talk to us a lot about his private life. So, but I can I I only assume, you know.

SPEAKER_13 40:31

I mean, it's not hard to make that conclusion. Yeah. Lots of cash, and you know, if there's marijuana stuff, and there's obviously drugs that are in the apartment, like marijuana in the house, like it's just you're gonna have those thoughts is why I was asking. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 40:46

Year and a half, a couple of years that he's really turned around, we feel like he's really dedicated himself to this job. And uh I mean, even though we don't agree with his tattoos, his, you know, we didn't agree with a lot of stuff, but he was taking care of his business. We felt like. And we didn't feel like he was doing anything illegally anymore. We we were we're proud, we were proud of him.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

With detectives now hearing two very different versions of Colby's life, they began forming a clearer picture of who he truly was. But understanding Colby was only part of the truth. To see the full story, investigators made a decisive move. They turned their attention to Rachel's new boyfriend, Chris, hoping his perspective might reveal more about her and what had really been happening behind closed doors.

SPEAKER_08 41:55

How long have you been to you?

SPEAKER_20 41:57

Uh tell you we're at 2020.

SPEAKER_08 42:00

Okay. Um, my name's Captain Jones, by the way. Um, we're we've been working around the clock on this, trying to get to the bottom of it, so I appreciate y'all coming down to talk to us. Um You understand that you're here voluntarily, and we've forcing you to be here. Um, we just kind of wanted to talk to you and find out some things. Um What is your understanding about what happened?

SPEAKER_20 42:22

My understanding is that y'all came to us and knocked on our door. Or the two fellas. Right. The tall dude and the outer dude, the younger fella. Right. Uh they came and knocked on our door, and we thought something went wrong with the exchange. Right, right. Because we had to get a Presley at 6 30.

SPEAKER_08 42:44

Right. And the grandparents handled the exchange, is that correct?

SPEAKER_20 42:47

Uh yeah, new new dude.

SPEAKER_08 42:48

Christy.

SPEAKER_20 42:49

Yeah. Honestly, I couldn't hand her over to him. Right, right. I mean, I ain't said nothing to the dude. I've only said a few words to him throughout mine and Rachel's entire relationship. Right. And that's about it. So and we just found out he was shot. Right.

SPEAKER_08 43:05

For the first time, for the first time in a year, he hasn't seen the girl, and the night that he gets her, he gets he gets murdered. Right. Right. So obviously that's gonna draw some some suspicion right on Rachel. Um, you know, so we're trying to get to the bottom of this, we're trying to establish, right, what what could have happened. Right. Um, and I'm not insinuating that Rachel put someone up to this, right? But is it possible that somebody was so upset that they would have done this on Rachel's behalf? No, not that I know of. Not that you know of? Not that I know of. Anybody that uh grandmother and grandma might know that may have been so upset that they would have done this on her behalf? No.

SPEAKER_11 43:43

No.

SPEAKER_08 43:46

Um well let me ask you this, because we've we've got some some pictures of someone. Like we've we pretty much have figured out who we think did it. Um and if there's a connection to Rachel, right, that's not gonna look good. Right, right, on the on the back side. Right? It's fine on the front side if it, you know, they're like, well, there I got this crazy uncle who you know might do this or might do that. That's one thing.

SPEAKER_09 44:11

Okay, right.

SPEAKER_08 44:12

But if everybody's denying, I don't know, we don't know nothing, don't know nothing, and all of a sudden the person who pulled the trigger has a direct connection, right? That's gonna be an issue. You agree? Yeah, okay. Um, Chris, I'm just gonna be straightforward with you. In this game, coincidences typically are not coincidences. Okay, right? I I don't think it's a coincidence that the same day the custody or the same week that you know, the same night that the custody exchange happens for the first time in a year and a half, yeah, Cody Colby gets killed in front of his apartment. Right. I don't think that's a coincidence. Right? I I think that there's more at play here. Um, having said that, I can certainly understand why, right, someone wouldn't would would get that upset. Right? I'm a father, I've got two kids. If all of a sudden I'm gonna have to turn my kids over to the deadbeat drug user, there is not a thing in this world I wouldn't do to prevent. That from from happening. Right.

SPEAKER_20 45:10

We're trying to do shit legally.

SPEAKER_08 45:11

Right.

SPEAKER_20 45:12

And I understand that, but we've been doing like Monday morning was gonna call DCF worker and how we're gonna do a wellness check on our kid.

SPEAKER_08 45:19

Right, right. Do they do that, Dina?

SPEAKER_20 45:22

Do what?

SPEAKER_08 45:23

Did y'all call DCF? Uh we went down to that place this morning to the kids' house, and they called the DCF people in the So, you know, again, I I you know I keep coming back to, you know, this is this is not a coincidence, right? It's a circumstance. Um and you know, I'm trying to mitigate things for Rachel and for you. Right. Right. If there was any involvement, we need to know that now, right, right? Because it's not going to do you any good to say, oh, okay, well, now that you've arrested this guy and he's telling on us that this is this is the deal. So if you know anything about this, right, we need to know that today. No, I do not. Okay. You don't know anything about it. You don't know anybody that would have that would have possibly done this on Rachel's behalf.

unknown 46:15

I do know.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

By this point, the detective's approach had noticeably changed. The tone of the investigation was becoming more direct, more confrontational, because one fact was impossible to ignore. On the very day Colby finally regained time with his daughter, he was shot and killed. As the case intensified, officers also secured access to both Rachel's and Christina's phones. What they discovered inside those messages would later expose something far more disturbing than anyone had anticipated. And because of that, detectives start pressing even harder.

SPEAKER_06 46:51

Oh man. So Detective Rango. Uh, I know they snagged this from you. Yeah, can I get it, buddy? No, unfortunately we're keeping it for evidence, like the lieutenant was saying when he was in here. Um you gotta have a warrant for that though. Yeah, we need a warrant to search it. Yeah. Not to seize it. Why don't you have to have a warrant to seize it? Yeah, I'm not gonna do this on the dance, but we have That's my only form of work, dude. I get it. But unfortunately, due to the circumstance of what's going on, we need to check off all our blocks. So here's the deal.

SPEAKER_03 47:24

Rachel comes in there saying everything that happened. You know exactly what's going on, you know who's dealing with. You need to be honest with us right now and tell us everything that you need to know. I'm being honest with you. I don't think you are. I'm telling you everything I know about. Tell me again. Alright.

SPEAKER_20 47:45

The only things that I know?

SPEAKER_03 47:47

What do you want me to think? If you know things that you're not telling us and we find out, you're gonna go to prison. Right. I mean, is all this worth you going to prison? I know I'm telling you what I know. And that's really what I know. Who's Booger? Uh Jason.

SPEAKER_20 48:11

I think that was her stepdaddy, but I ain't never met him.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

She talked over him? Talked about him?

unknown 48:17

I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_20 48:18

She has talked about him before in the past, but not here you say not.

SPEAKER_03 48:22

She hadn't said anything about him yesterday or this past week. No. You hadn't seen him?

unknown 48:29

No.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

It's at this point that detectives introduce a name that hadn't been mentioned before. Someone referred to only as Booger. The reason they bring this up becomes critical, because when investigators examined Rachel's phone records, they discovered a series of messages between her and this individual. And in those exchanges, there were references to getting a job done. To detectives, that wording was impossible to ignore. However, during this interview, Chris appeared to have no clear knowledge of those conversations. He denied any awareness of what was being discussed, but investigators weren't asking these questions by accident. They were applying pressure, carefully revealing what they already knew, hoping that the weight of the evidence would force the truth into the open.

SPEAKER_09 49:18

Alright? Because you're kind of foobarred in the situation. Dan if you do, Dan if you don't. I'm sorry. It's the nature of the beast right now. If she starts talking, and her mom is always going to back for play, and her mom is gonna back her up because her mom isn't there right now with her.

unknown 49:36

Alright?

SPEAKER_09 49:36

If they're saying things that you know that you're not telling us, how does it make you look before us in the courts? So all I'm giving you, I just want you to think, is there anything else? Now, it might sound bad and damning to her, but I don't want it to come out saying she came out and said, Well, this, this, and this happened, and Steven was aware of it, and then we talked to you about it. I know nothing about it, and looks like you're trying to obstruct us from it. I don't want to see catch a charge, dude. I know, I know.

SPEAKER_03 50:09

Well, the ball's in your court. If you change your mind and you get to thinking about this, you know, you can call, we'll come talk to you.

SPEAKER_20 50:20

I don't know anything about this dude. You know, all I've known is that he used to be our stepdad, you know. That's it. Occasionally he'll send some randomized pictures. There's one time I think he sent a picture abroad, and that's when I just stopped watching the conversation, you know.

SPEAKER_09 50:40

Yeah. Like I said, man, you're a good kid. Alright. I'm trying to matter of fact, believe it or not, we're trying to keep you from getting him up.

SPEAKER_20 50:51

Right, and I'm trying to do the same thing.

SPEAKER_09 50:52

And then to do the right thing. If you sit out there and you think of something, you know, ring the doorbell. Do get a hold of one of us. Because I tell you what, I hate for her to spend some shit. Trying to throw anything and everything she can against the wall to take, you know, whatever. And you get caught up in and splattered.

SPEAKER_03 51:14

Cause cause here's the thing. I mean, these these type investigations can last a uh a lengthy amount of time. This one's not.

SPEAKER_20 51:21

Right.

SPEAKER_03 51:22

And we're pretty much gonna be snowballing it after we get done here. Matter of fact, we got some guys working on stuff right now. I mean, it's gonna be a total avalanche whenever we're done talking to y'all.

SPEAKER_01 51:34

Once detectives finished interviewing Chris, they were left with nothing that could tie him to the crime. There was no confession, no contradiction, and no new detail that pushed the investigation forward. They had applied pressure, hoping he might reveal something they could use to connect him to what happened. But Chris never changed his story because the truth was simple. He had nothing to do with it. On that same night, detectives questioned Chris. Rachel was already waiting at the station, meaning officers had immediate access to her. But before they could move forward, they still needed to locate Christina, who was not yet present. The plan was simple: bring them both in, conduct one final round of questioning, and lay out everything investigators had uncovered so far, face to face with the truth. But what detectives didn't expect was how easily that moment would come.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

Go ahead and step out with me, okay? Can you turn around and put your hand behind your back for me? Hang on, and I'll let you know. I'm not gonna hurt you. Long as you don't pull away from me or anything. For what? Accessory after the fact. Capital felony.

SPEAKER_05 52:51

Money's in money's in the safe.

SPEAKER_02 53:07

Alright, listen. I'm fixing to explain everything to you. Just stand up. You don't want to sit right there. You're sitting in ants. Stand up.

SPEAKER_05 53:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

I'm gonna sit you in my car, and you can you can hang tight there. You can have her on the other side.

SPEAKER_05 53:21

That son of a bitch.

SPEAKER_02 53:22

Be careful, watch your head.

SPEAKER_05 53:25

Yeah, and the puppy, please tell him. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

Look, we're just we're just transporting you, okay? We have nothing to do with what's going on. Watch your hip.

SPEAKER_01 53:35

Now that Christina was in custody, detectives made their next move. They brought her to the station and placed both women in the same room. Because what was coming next wasn't routine questioning. Investigators were preparing to reveal everything they had uncovered, laying their cards on the table with both of them present. And once that happened, there would be no way to hide from the truth. But before detectives even had the chance to present the evidence, something unexpected happened. Rachel began to confess.

SPEAKER_08 54:10

Did you tell your mom what's going on?

SPEAKER_04 54:12

Um, I figured I could tell us all at the same time. Okay. This is something I need to sit down with and throw up.

SPEAKER_05 54:18

Yeah, you might sit all with him or then okay. That probably wouldn't be a bad idea, so you know they tend to probably lose the chance.

SPEAKER_04 54:28

Um I called Booger on Monday and told him about the court date. And I was panicking and and he told me not to worry about it, that it wouldn't be something he'd gotta worry about. Thank you. And I um I messaged him, told him everything that was going on, and he had sent me pictures of knives and guns and Renaissance sh. But I didn't think anything of it because he lived far away and he's just an easy and so I had told him um I told him thanks for thanks for making me feel better.

SPEAKER_08 55:15

What did he send you the pictures of the knives and guns on? Was it on text message or Facebook?

SPEAKER_04 55:20

Messenger, but I thought that was bad to have. Facebook messages. Yeah. After what I well I deleted that immediately as soon as everything hit the fan. I was like, oh wow, this is probably bad. This probably looks awful. So, um I called him throughout the week and I was telling him because he talks to me. He just I grew up with him as my backbone of the dad. Like, my dad wasn't around much, but he was, so. You'd think you would actually come down here and fucking shoot him. I don't know. I don't know, but he he did tell me not to worry about it, and then he called he called last night and said that I don't have to worry about it, and everything's fine.

SPEAKER_08 56:08

Did you um when he told you you didn't have to worry about it anymore, did you ask him, like, what are you talking about? And was this a phone call or was this?

SPEAKER_27 56:15

It's a phone call.

SPEAKER_08 56:16

Right. So he called you and said you don't have to worry about it anymore. What did you say to him?

SPEAKER_27 56:19

What are you talking about? I huh? He said, Yeah, you don't have to worry about it, it'll be fine, but I gotta go. And he just hung up.

SPEAKER_08 56:32

Right. The only way to get ahead of this is to be honest up front, right? If if if we have to come back later and say, well, what's this text message about, then that's not gonna look good, right?

SPEAKER_04 56:41

Oh, you're probably gonna come back later a lot. I I didn't think he would. I told him I would pay for his gas. I did this, looks awful for me. Did you actually No! No, I didn't. When I tell you, I didn't know, I didn't know. When I caught the call, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_12 57:08

This looks so, so bad for me, y'all. Like I was telling her.

SPEAKER_08 57:11

Did you give him the address?

SPEAKER_12 57:13

No.

SPEAKER_04 57:15

I promise I didn't give him I didn't give him anything.

SPEAKER_06 57:19

Do you talk to anybody you would talk to him?

SPEAKER_04 57:22

Uh I don't know who he talks to. We don't talk on a regular basis. This is just this just happened. Like this wasn't something that was set up.

SPEAKER_01 57:33

As the interview continued, detectives were finally beginning to see the full picture. However, one question still remained. How involved was Rachel, really? She insisted that Booger, her stepfather, had acted alone, without her help or knowledge. But investigators had their suspicions because the evidence they had uncovered was beginning to tell a very different story.

SPEAKER_11 58:01

So what did you think when you heard that?

SPEAKER_12 58:04

Sorry. I thought that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_11 58:11

Well, I guess let me know. So when they got back when the detective showed up at your house and told you that.

SPEAKER_04 58:16

I wanted to puke. I immediately asked where my kid was, if she saw anything. I thought I didn't know what happened. I didn't know if she had said anything. I thought, oh my god, how could you do this to her? How could you do this to me? What's the situation you're gonna put us all in? I I panicked. I did not know what to do at that point in time. I didn't know what was happening. I didn't know. She said he said that he had been harmed and currently deceased. I that's all I got told. I was like, where is my kid? How did it happen? They didn't tell me anything. And um that's all I knew. That's what I was left with. But I need to get outside.

SPEAKER_11 59:12

You're fine.

SPEAKER_04 59:13

Are you okay if I go out?

SPEAKER_27 59:15

I feel like I'm gonna pass out in this chair. Um you you do you.

SPEAKER_12 59:22

If if you can leave, I need I I just really feel that I need to get outside because I'm not okay right here. Okay. Okay, I guess I can meet you outside.

SPEAKER_04 59:36

Okay. I love you. I'm so sorry. I didn't know this would happen. I think pressure.

SPEAKER_11 59:47

That's not our decision, and that's not that's that's not what we're doing right now. Okay, I don't want to.

SPEAKER_05 59:52

I just need to share that. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_11 59:54

Okay, I don't want you to go that direction. We haven't mentioned that to anybody, and we haven't even made any phone calls. So I don't want you to jump to conclusions right now.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:03

I just told you that I didn't do this.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:06

I don't want you to jump jump ahead right now. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:10

Can I get out and get down?

SPEAKER_11 1:00:11

Yes, ma'am, stop in.

unknown 1:00:14

Sorry, please, please.

SPEAKER_15 1:00:18

I didn't do this.

unknown 1:00:21

I'm sorry, my daughter, please don't take her.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:25

At the conclusion of the interviews, detectives made their decision. The evidence pointing toward Rachel was too strong to ignore. She was placed in handcuffs, formally taken into custody, and transported to jail as the investigation reached its most decisive turning point yet. As the days passed, Booker, also known as the Stepfather, remained on the run, moving from place to place in an effort to avoid law enforcement. But the search wouldn't last forever. Officers eventually tracked him down, stopped him, and placed him under arrest, bringing the men at the center of it all into custody at last.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:34

Um what I was telling you that was the worst.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:00

With Booger now in custody and Rachel also under arrest, both were transported to jail. That same day, Booger, whose real name is Jason Lane Curtis, was formally charged with first degree premeditated murder. Rachel Moore was later indicted for first degree premeditated murder as well. As for Chris and Christina, neither of them faced criminal charges in connection to the case.